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18 // iberian.propery / 2017

dossier// ISSUE: TOP IBERIAN Investors

And now, what’s

next in Iberia?

One of the most influential economists in the world, Daniel Lacalle spoke

with Iberian Property on the current macroeconomic scenario of Iberia,

sharing some tips on what the path to a more robust economy should be.

Why is the Iberian economy out-performing

in Europe ?

Numerous factors. On one hand, averysuccessful

set of structural reforms in the financial sector,

labourmarket and public finances. Spain reduced

its deficit 40%, and has been creating more than

500,000 jobs per annum. Additionally, looking

at the Iberian economy as a whole, it has finally

reduced its external imbalances and has reduced

its trade deficit, thus reaching record-high exports.

This record in exports has been achieved despite

the weakness in key trading partner economies

likeBrazil orMexico. Finally, there have been some

positive external factors, including low oil prices,

although these external factors weigh less than

the positive impact of the massive reduction in

corporate and household debt.

Iberian economic activity is picking upwith a

long-awaited cyclical recovery, but the truth

is that the Spanish and the Portuguese econ-

omies are still evolving at different paces. Do

you believe that in the short-term there will

be a more convergent economic pace?Why?

I do not believe in convergence. I believe in

positive differences. Portugal has a tremendous

potential and needs to acknowledge its opportu-

nities and reduce imbalances. The same is with

Spain. Both can learn fromeach othermaking the

best out of the differences of each country and

the varied exposures to a wide set of economic

factors. Theway I see it, it’s not as a convergence

path, but as a strengthening collaboration, so as

to make the most out of each other’s strengths.

It is almost a decade since the financial crisis

of 2008 broke in Iberia: first in Spain and then in

Portugal. In the intervening years so much has

changed in the economic and financial back-

ground... Havewe learnt thenecessary lessons?

I do not like the term

“financial crisis”

as it gives

the impression that it was a crisis of only one

sector, when it was a crisis of an entire eco-

nomic model based on ignoring debt, spending

and cost of capital, believing that everything

could be justified with optimistic long-term

assumptions. Families and businesses have

reacted admirably, and the fact that the public

opinion is sceptical about the recovery while

strengthening their position, is a great thing.

Families and businesses have lowered their

debt to 2006 levels, focused on a consump-

tion and investment pattern that does not rely

anymore on massive debt, and those are very

positive lessons. Unfortunately, in Iberia, the

rise of populist messages and magic solutions

driven by totalitarians that promise heaven and

deliver hell is a concern. Populists are promoting

the idea that fiscal irresponsibility and massive

imbalances are the solution to the economy.

Repeating the mistakes of the previous years,

would only lead us to yet another crisis.

And are these economies investing enough

in R&D and in the transactional side of the

economy?

In Europe we talk a lot about

“spending”

in R&D

as if it were a magic potion. Investment in R&D

is needed, of course, but we need to monitor its

effectiveness, and not just howmuch we spend.

Alreadybefore the crisis, Iberian economies spent

more than Brazil, for example, in R&D in relation to

GDP. However, the number of registered patents

wasmassively lower, and the number of compa-

nies created from those patents even less. The

Iberian economy needs to change the mindset

from R&D as a

“public Investment”

and think like

Finland or South Korea, where more than 65% of

investment in R&D comes from the private sector

and it is focused on patents and job creation.